All involving 2019 model year vehicles. I have a 2018 forester and I can smell exhaust/gas in the cabin while idling. 2001 OBW with the exact same issue. Car is due for a service now. Turns out an installed gasket was either pinched or torn or was just bad Going to give the clamps a turn and call my dealer. Im going to keep my fingers crossed and try some these suggestions.Please wih me luck. Here are places that fuel will commonly leak from: If one of the fuel lines has been damaged, you should be able to find the leak by doing an inspection. But did they skip over another All Wheel Drive Auto, LLC is an Independent Subaru Service and Repair Facility. I also removed grandson's child seat from middle row passenger side, to allow techs access. The fire may occur even while the vehicle is turned Had mine done at Autonation Subaru, formerly Valley Motors, Hunt Valley, Maryland. One interesting note: when I called to make the appointment, it seemed like I got routed into some central call center that wasn't the actual dealer. Very helpful info. Mechanic suspected gas tank leak at top of tank, but smell has since gone and no trace of leaks visible on tank. I was a little disappointed but I did ask them to look at a good scratch on the drivers side door from a car door parked next to mine. Got the smell of gas inside cabin after a refill (I didnt overfill, just standard filling). Fuel lines should be inspect4ed every year and replaced as needed, a 10 year old car is at the point where they may be needed. After my fuel pump recall three weeks ago, I had no gas smell whatsoever inside, which is what I would expect. Ad-free. Gas odors stick around for a bit. I had the fuel pump replaced in my 2019 Highlander, as part of the recall, 9 days ago. The car is 10 years old and may occasionally need some repairs. A burning rubber smell is almost always, in fact, burning rubber. I have put the car on a lift at work and give it the old lookseedoodle. To see if your vehicle has an open recall that needs to be addressed, go to NHTSAs website. 2. Subaru issued the recall for 188,207 of its 2019 model year vehicles in April over fuel pump problems that a report by Car and Driver said can increase the risk of his 2005 baja turbo failed inspection because of the slight fuel leak he has on the drivers side of the car. As a result, you may avoid becoming stranded someplace with a faulty fuel pump by keeping an open ear. Can you explain exactly what fuel lines to change (maybe a picture with arrows to the right hoses), and whether we should use aftermarket hoses or trust more Subaru ones? It takes about 15 minutes to resolve once your are set up correctly with the right tools. This was my first Subaru and probably my last. Just needed a phillips screwdriver. I cannot buy another one from a company like this that has so little regard Of course that was a few years ago. Two days later when the freshener wore off, the smell was back. Ive been breathing in noxious fumes for 3 winters now. I can remove hose with a knife but am uncertain if I will need to loosen the fuel pipe-Left (rather not do this b/c of bad experiences with rusted bolts on car) in order to replace the hose. Specifically, where the neck meets the tank. Given the sneaky way the dealership tried to cover up the smell and insist there was no gas smell really tells you something about this particular dealership. Put it up on jack stands, take a flashlight and start hunting around. I tightened the clamps for now, but will order new parts as soon as possible. Is there something the should be doing that they have not done as this is not a new issue. It stalled on my wife 5 times today after filling up. If tank pressure drops too rapidly, the computer throws a check engine (or similar) light for an evaporative emissions system leak. With the recent cold (-12 today here in Colorado Springs), I noticed twice this week the STRONG fuel smell driving into work. Stay informed about recalls that might affect your vehicle using ourCar Recall Tracker. Campaign code WVK-21 has been assigned to this regional recall. Lastly the fuel pump is housed in side of the Gas Tank. I took my car in for the recall to Gilman North Subaru after a day at the beach. Over time, the impeller may become deformed enough to interfere with the body of the fuel pump, potentially causing the low-pressure fuel pump to become inoperative, the recall report says. Owner of 2017 Subaru Outback 3.6R. Did you have a similar problem, and did you find out what happened? My advice, DO NOT DO THIS JOB ON YOUR OWN, pay a qualified technicianbecause its a pain in the ass. Why not list what was done? The 2018-2019 Toyota 86 coupe, which shares components with the Subaru BRZ, is also included in this recall. As the cars At which point is it your car and not Subarus is the question? WebFuel Pump Recall and Smell of Gas in the Interior I got my fuel pump recall in the mail earlier this week for my 2019 and took it to the closest Honda dealership to have it I have a 2002 subaru outback H6 3.0 (v6) automatic llbean edition, I live in Cleveland Ohio and problem started when it got COLD, the fuel leak is just like you said, at the clamp. There, a technician will install a new fuel pump with a higher density. Most car manufacturers, including Subaru, recommend replacing the in-tank fuel filter every 80000km. Thanks. Help! Like /u/Nerfo2 said, if it was installed incorrectly it'd throw a code pretty quick, so if you're not getting a check engine light I'd guess there's a couple drops in the carpet under that seat. 1. If this is the case, it can make its way up into your Tribecas cabin. Ive taken it to my local shop and they couldnt diagnose. at fuel pump.. easy to assume no gas duh leak discovered AFTER other checked out. Thought it would go away after a few days driving with windows open. Next job is to replace a fuel hose that leaks when below 20F. The recall began June 4, 2020. After having the truck for 4 days I got it back. Did notice on the repair ticket that the fuel tank was emptied before the fuel pump replacement and then the fuel was replaced afterwards, seemed like a good idea with less chance of fuel spillage. Additionally if the wire insulation melts the fuel pump can short out and stop working. My hunch is that if the recirc feature is used the situation will improve. Wife riding in car 2 weeks later was getting nauseous. Third try, same result. Whats strange is that I used to live in Alaska with much colder temps and never had this issue. Unfortunately, I cant come to your shop, as I am in Quebec. But honestly this is kind of BS, I do a lot of driving for work to locations/distances I have no control over and trying to manage fuel levels/distances for a recall maintenance item is not exactly practical for me without constantly stopping for gas. Only had a very slight fuel smell but soon went away. After the car stalls out, drivers might have a hard time getting their engines to start again. Is this typical of all Subaru dealerships? I just posted a response/scenario/question on the head Gasket thread (I guess will be #1037), but then I found this thread which may be more related. Side comment, but to any of you 2019 owners that might read this and be planning to get your fuel pump recall done soon, please for the love of god do not bring it in with more than half a tank. There are many fuel lines under hood the cost depends on which one and the labor rates in your area. that reports on class action lawsuits, class action settlements, I want to know what to tell my mechanic as they have obviously had no idea what to do to permanently fix this issue for the past 6 years. At 30k for most new cars, it had better right? however on my engine (v6 edition) it is on the DRIVERS SIDE (H6-3.0), on top of what appears to be the fuel filter. As part of that commitment, weve made it easy to learn more In some cases, the vehicle may not start. Bluish smoke is not good, is it also using oil? Kantor. I said, no thanks. Late model Outbacks that had the fuel pump recall completed had a little smell after the repair, but that quickly goes away. April 22, 2020 A Subaru fuel pump recall has been ordered for more than 200,000 model year 2019 Subaru Impreza, Outback, Legacy and Ascent vehicles VERY disappointed in this treatment by Subaru. So I went under the car and removed the little plastic oil filter access flap and I was staring right at the leak. And 40,950 Subaru Ascents built between June 26, 2018 and Feb. 18, 2019 were subject to the recall. I have the service manual but cannot find a step by step on replacement. The Honda Insight, award-winning hybrid since 1999. If it doesnt seem to dissipate, its time to move on to the next potential problem. If you are the type of person that likes to squeeze in the last half gallon by making the pump click 5 times, know that your Tribeca was not meant to be fueled like that. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Tribeca Smells Like Gas: No Fuel Leak. The 2019 and newer. temps. Started the car and looked around saw fuel dripping from two hose on the passenger side of the compartment nearer to the front of the car. I didnt think that was to bad for a Turbo model running higher fuel pressure. I got my fuel pump recall in the mail earlier this week for my 2019 and took it to the closest Honda dealership to have it replaced. Apr 30, 2021. Tightened those and it seems to have taken care of the problem. 97 it's a, I have a 2007 h3 hummer base model. And they didnt charge me. This was my first Subaru and probably my last. WebA screeching sound is one of the most typical indications that your Subarus fuel pump is failing. I am having this issue with my 2005 2.5XT Outback. WebWhen the pump comes out, it can dribble a little (or kind of a lot) of fuel around -- the fuel pump assembly has like an outer canister that holds maybe a half pint of gas, and if you I want an excuse to take it back and get it cleaned again. If this is the problem, you're in luck. I think the odor thing is very dependent on the service team and fuel level, honestly. I researched a bit, I see the corrosion issue with the filler necks and the shield build up..I live in michigan.. Subaru did the right thing by recalling over 200,000 vehicles that are at risk of stalling out because of a defect in their Denso fuel pumps. If your vehicle had a fuel or exhaust leak that would also be a condition that would need to be addressed regardless of the car pulling fumes in. It is sad that Subaru wont man up to this problem. ), my toddlers might not and probably is not too good for their developing lungs. Let is sit for a little time. I have been reading all these blogs and have tightened clamps and I lifted the access compartment in my 99 legacy outback and I see or smell no gas on top of the tank Is there anything else or tricky spots that could be leaky????? I have A 2005 XT as well and have replaced the lines at 91k. We are not associated in any way with Honda Motor Company. I had the full blown check up done by the dealer in the fall other than new brakes, everything was fine. Thought maybe they spilled fuel and it would evaporate. At first, I thought I could just bend the hose into U and slip it into the two metal ends, now Im not sure the tube will bend enough to slip over both sides. When I took it to the dealer he advised me they would have to drop the fuel tank to do repairs. I guess I didnt truly verify if it was gas. Do I have the same rubber fuel line fittings? I am at 156k miles and dont think fuel lines have ever been replaced. Questions: All fuel lines would include the ones at the tank and that run through the body, which would be substantially more than $700 anywhere. It would be better to replace the small rubber fuel line under the manifold rather than just tighten the clamps. the fuel pump access is under your 2nd row right seat. Ask Your Own Hyundai Question Maybe thats why I see so many cars on the side of the road. Thanks again. 1-888-234-2138 is the number for Honda recalls. Once that happens, itll begin to let fuel vapor out and into the air. I don't care whose fault it is. But the line should be inspected for cracking and if cracked replaced. 2019 Assent Premium 8-Passenger Crimson Red Pearl with Ivory Interior, Convenience Package and Popular Package #2, 2019 CRP Ascent Limited w/#23 Built July 2018. Yes. Mice and other rodents do in fact wreak havoc on all sorts of vehicle systems and yes you cant really expect a car company to warranty something chewed by a rodent, if you are concerned just ask to see the old parts, it should be very obvious that is what occurred. If your Subaru Outback has a burning smell, there are many potential causes. Required fields are marked *. I didnt have a lot of time last night AND it was like 0 degrees. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. butif the car was leaking gas over the long weekend before the dealer looked (seriously?) But first check around the fuel filter (next to the driver side strut tower), and then follow those lines to the intake manifold. The company expects notices to start mailing out on June 5. I have a 2005 OB XT 5-spd and the raw gas smell just started for the first time. Had my recall completed 7/7 and took about 5 hours due to work backlog but wasn't a problem because I had a loaner car. Had the same exact issue when I took mine in. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administrations report on the recall says the affected cars were equipped with an impeller part of the cars Denso fuel pump that was manufactured with a lower density. As a result, the impeller can crack, leading to excessive fuel absorption and deformation. My 2004 Subaru Baja Turbo has had this problem for the past 3 winters. Your great write-ups (together with you-tube) help me keep my 2002 forester in good shape. Just replace rubber line, or is there more involved? It is in the 40s now and the smell is gone. Subaru Recalls More Than 165,000 Cars and SUVs to Fix Stalling Engines - Consumer Reports Consumer Reports has the latest on a fuel pump recall involving Sometimes the system is slow, by the time youreceivea recall notice you may have paid for a repair at a general repair shop thatdoesntcare if your Wheel bearings are under recall/warranty. The dealer is an idiot. Nearly all modern vehicles have an access panel under a seat or floorboard, so the fuel pump can be accessed from the top. I got it back pretty well detailed on the inside much cleaner than I ever get it. Solved by tightening clamps as I have done before. I had the problem 2 years ago and it came back with the cold weather in the NE. The physics of cold weather and rubber will be the same, regardless of how new or old the rubber is and it will eventually happen again. After driving, there is a gas odor near the passenger rear tire. It was June and not cold. Thanks for the input. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. This is the second recall related to fuel pumps on Subaru vehicles. Since its behind the driver, you really shouldnt smell the smell of gas unless you are going down the road. While I hope I can speak for all my fellow techs when I say we take utmost caution in trying not to drip any on the carpet, it's easier said than done with the ascent's design in particular. Has anyone else had their fuel pumps replaced as part of the recent recall and had their cabin have a strong smell of fuel afterwards? One dealer tried to convince me to replace the metal fuel line rod on the firewall at the top of the engine compartment, to the tune of $1500. They checked cabin filter and put smoke under hood to see where it was being drawn in and found nothing. That is a tell-tale sign of a fuel leak. Stalling is one of the biggest problems associated with the faulty fuel pump, reports said. If you still don't see anything, remove That doesnt really correlate with what you are posting however, I suppose it could be leaking down the engine, but if its that severe it needs to be addressed before driving it at all. Went to Subaru dealer. Subaru Ascent Complaints, Issues, Problems, Defect, Subaru Ascent Complaints, Issues And Problems. Heres a video on how to use a fuel pressure regulator with a pressure gauge, and heres one that uses a diagnostic scanner to actually look at whats going on in the engine. Okay I get it, paying for a repair on a 12 year old car is out of line. With only the intake, it All Wheel Drive Auto:Independent Seattle Subaru Service, Drive Auto Sports: Dyno Tuning & Performance. The freeze has just settled in here in Chicago. One thing that I omitted from my original post was one of the reasons this happens is the Techs at the dealerships neglect to check and tighten these connections even though its part of a service you are paying for. The seal for either Fuel pump or secondary fuel level sending unit to the fuel tank may be leaking. This may be a dumb question, but just confirming that the pump is actually in the tank and if so, how hard is it to drop the tank to get it out? Went to Subaru again. If the o-ring was pinched, the check engine light would come on real soon. said everything check out? Notes: Drive the car and check the fuel lines as soon as you return. Up until I ran into this major issue, I thought Subaru had a good car. One of the best ways to determine if you have a fuel leak is to observe the fuel economy. The fuel line is made from rubber and the clamps stainless steel they have different expansion and contraction rates. WVK-21 for 2002-2003 Subaru WRX Models resolves a fuel leak from the fuel line under the intake manifold during cold weather Its my 2 one and this problem just started it never happened with my other Subaru when it is below 20 the gas smell is beyond crazy. Sorry, just thought of follow-up questions: What is wrong with the 2000 Outback fuel line that it needs to be changed? SKU:MA5045299.. The hose I found leaking,(about 4 inches long)was under the driver side intake manifold, below the spark plug wires. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Top Class Actions is a Proud Member of the American Bar Association, Various Trademarks held by their respective owners. I was told that this is a common Subaru problem. This website is not intended for viewing or usage by European Union citizens. Dont believe this is ignition issue. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If you smell gas right away after the recall it could be that they spilled some gas. Or they pulled out the pump, went to lunch, and let the fuel smell marinate the interior. Definitely a possibilityit was nice out today and breezy, so I opened the windows all the way in the drive way for several hours and that seems to have helped quite a bit. Subaru has initiated a voluntary regional recall to replace specific engine fuel lines and hoses. A common thing is that the fuel line clamps need to be tightened. Thanks, Your email address will not be published. I found this very helpful because when I told my mechanic, all he said was that it was a common problem with this kind of car. I shut engine off, let it cool down and then went to google, and found quite a few sites complaining of fuel line leaks in Subarus. C $34.56. 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